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What is Grayscale?Grayscale is the company that created the ETHE product. Their website is https://grayscale.co/
What is ETHE?ETHE is essentially a stock that intends to loosely track the price of ETH. It does so by having each ETHE be backed by a specific amount of ETH that is held on chain. Initially, the newly minted ETHE can only be purchased by institutions and accredited investors directly from Grayscale. Once a year has passed (6 months for GBTC) it can then be listed on the OTCQX Best Market exchange for secondary trading. Once listed on OTCQX, anyone investor can purchase at this point. Additional information on ETHE can be found here.
So ETHE is an ETF?No. For technical reasons beyond my personal understandings it is not labeled an ETF. I know it all flows back to the “Securities Act Rule 144”, but due to my limited knowledge on SEC regulations I don’t want to misspeak past that. If anyone is more knowledgeable on the subject I am happy to input their answer here.
How long has ETHE existed?ETHE was formed 12/14/2017. GBTC was formed 9/25/2013.
How is ETHE created?The trust will issue shares to “Authorized Participants” in groups of 100 shares (called baskets). Authorized Participants are the only persons that may place orders to create these baskets and they do it on behalf of the investor.
How does Grayscale acquire the ETH to collateralize the ETHE product?An Investor may acquire ETHE by paying in cash or exchanging ETH already owned.
Where does Grayscale store their ETH? Does it have a specific wallet address we can follow?ETH is stored with Coinbase Custody Trust Company, LLC. I am unaware of any specific address or set of addresses that can be used to verify the ETH is actually there.
Can ETHE be redeemed for ETH?No, currently there is no way to give your shares of ETHE back to Grayscale to receive ETH back. The only method of getting back into ETH would be to sell your ETHE to someone else and then use those proceeds to buy ETH yourself.
Why are they not redeeming shares?I think the report summarizes it best:
Redemptions of Shares are currently not permitted and the Trust is unable to redeem Shares. Subject to receipt of regulatory approval from the SEC and approval by the Sponsor in its sole discretion, the Trust may in the future operate a redemption program. Because the Trust does not believe that the SEC would, at this time, entertain an application for the waiver of rules needed in order to operate an ongoing redemption program, the Trust currently has no intention of seeking regulatory approval from the SEC to operate an ongoing redemption program.Source: Redemption Procedures on page 41 of the “Grayscale Ethereum Trust Annual Report (2019)” – Located Here
What is the fee structure?ETHE has an annual fee of 2.5%. GBTC has an annual fee of 2.0%. Fees are paid by selling the underlying ETH / BTC collateralizing the asset.
What is the ratio of ETH to ETHE?At the time of posting (6/19/2020) each ETHE share is backed by .09391605 ETH. Each share of GBTC is backed by .00096038 BTC.
Why is the ratio not 1:1? Why is it always decreasing?While I cannot say for certain why the initial distribution was not a 1:1 backing, it is more than likely to keep the price down and allow more investors a chance to purchase ETHE / GBTC.
I keep hearing about how this is locked supply… explain?As noted above, there is currently no redemption program for converting your ETHE back into ETH. This means that once an ETHE is issued, it will remain in circulation until a redemption program is formed --- something that doesn’t seem to be too urgent for the SEC or Grayscale at the moment. Tiny amounts will naturally be removed due to fees, but the bulk of the asset is in there for good.
The Trust’s ETH will be transferred out of the ETH Account only in the following circumstances: (i) transferred to pay the Sponsor’s Fee or any Additional Trust Expenses, (ii) distributed in connection with the redemption of Baskets (subject to the Trust’s obtaining regulatory approval from the SEC to operate an ongoing redemption program and the consent of the Sponsor), (iii) sold on an as-needed basis to pay Additional Trust Expenses or (iv) sold on behalf of the Trust in the event the Trust terminates and liquidates its assets or as otherwise required by law or regulation.Source: Description of Trust on page 31 of the “Grayscale Ethereum Trust Annual Report (2019)” – Located Here
Grayscale now owns a huge chunk of both ETH and BTC’s supply… should we be worried about manipulation, a sell off to crash the market crash, a staking cartel?First, it’s important to remember Grayscale is a lot more akin to an exchange then say an investment firm. Grayscale is working on behalf of its investors to create this product for investor control. Grayscale doesn’t ‘control’ the ETH it holds any more then Coinbase ‘controls’ the ETH in its hot wallet. (Note: There are likely some varying levels of control, but specific to this topic Grayscale cannot simply sell [legally, at least] the ETH by their own decision in the same manner Coinbase wouldn't be able to either.)
Yes, but what about [insert criminal act here]…Alright, yes. Technically nothing is stopping Grayscale from selling all the ETH / BTC and running off to the Bahamas (Hawaii?). BUT there is no real reason for them to do so. Barry is an extremely public figure and it won’t be easy for him to get away with that. Grayscale’s Bitcoin Trust creates SEC reports weekly / bi-weekly and I’m sure given the sentiment towards crypto is being watched carefully. Plus, Grayscale is making tons of consistent revenue and thus has little to no incentive to give that up for a quick buck.
That’s a lot of ‘happy little feels’ Bob, is there even an independent audit or is this Tether 2.0?Actually yes, an independent auditor report can be found in their annual reports. It is clearly aimed more towards the financial side and I doubt the auditors are crypto savants, but it is at least one extra set of eyes. Auditors are Friedman LLP – Auditor since 2015.
The company’s auditors Friedman LLP were also coincidentally TetheBitfinex’s auditors until They controversially parted ways in 2018 when the Tether controversy was at its height. I am not suggesting for one moment that there is anything shady about DCG - I just find it interesting it’s the same auditor.
“Grayscale sounds kind of lame” / “Not your keys not your crypto!” / “Why is anyone buying this, it sounds like a scam?”Welp, for starters this honestly is not really a product aimed at the people likely to be reading this post. To each their own, but do remember just because something provides no value to you doesn’t mean it can’t provide value to someone else. That said some of the advertised benefits are as follows:
Why is there a premium? Why is ETHE’s premium so insanely high compared to GBTC’s premium?There are a handful of theories of why a premium exists at all, some even mentioned in the annual report. The short list is as follows:
Are there any other differences between ETHE and GBTC?I touched on a few of the smaller differences, but one of the more interesting changes is GBTC is now a “SEC reporting company” as of January 2020. Which again goes beyond my scope of knowledge so I won’t comment on it too much… but the net result is GBTC is now putting out weekly / bi-weekly 8-K’s and annual 10-K’s. This means you can track GBTC that much easier at the moment as well as there is an extra layer of validity to the product IMO.
I’m looking for some statistics on ETHE… such as who is buying, how much is bought, etc?There is a great Q1 2020 report I recommend you give a read that has a lot of cool graphs and data on the product. It’s a little GBTC centric, but there is some ETHE data as well. It can be found here hidden within the 8-K filings.Q1 2020 is the 4/16/2020 8-K filing.
Is Grayscale only just for BTC and ETH?No, there are other products as well. In terms of a secondary market product, ETCG is the Ethereum Classic version of ETHE. Fun Fact – ETCG was actually put out to the secondary market first. It also has a 3% fee tied to it where 1% of it goes to some type of ETC development fund.
Are there alternatives to Grayscale?I know they exist, but I don’t follow them. I’ll leave this as a “to be edited” section and will add as others comment on what they know.
Coinshares (Formerly XBT provider) are the only similar product I know of. BTC, ETH, XRP and LTC as Exchange Traded Notes (ETN).
It looks like they are fully backed with the underlying crypto (no premium).
Denominated in SEK and EUR. Certainly available in some UK pensions (SIPP).
As asked by pegcity - Okay so I was under the impression you can just give them your own ETH and get ETHE, but do you get 11 ETHE per ETH or do you get the market value of ETH in USD worth of ETHE?I have always understood that the ETHE issued directly through Grayscale is issued without the premium. As in, if I were to trade 1 ETH for ETHE I would get 11, not say only 2 or 3 because the secondary market premium is so high. And if I were paying cash only I would be paying the price to buy 1 ETH to get my 11 ETHE. Per page 39 of their annual statement, it reads as follows:
The Trust will issue Shares to Authorized Participants from time to time, but only in one or more Baskets (with a Basket being a block of 100 Shares). The Trust will not issue fractions of a Basket. The creation (and, should the Trust commence a redemption program, redemption) of Baskets will be made only in exchange for the delivery to the Trust, or the distribution by the Trust, of the number of whole and fractional ETH represented by each Basket being created (or, should the Trust commence a redemption program, redeemed), which is determined by dividing (x) the number of ETH owned by the Trust at 4:00 p.m., New York time, on the trade date of a creation or redemption order, after deducting the number of ETH representing the U.S. dollar value of accrued but unpaid fees and expenses of the Trust (converted using the ETH Index Price at such time, and carried to the eighth decimal place), by (y) the number of Shares outstanding at such time (with the quotient so obtained calculated to one one-hundred-millionth of one ETH (i.e., carried to the eighth decimal place)), and multiplying such quotient by 100 (the “Basket ETH Amount”). All questions as to the calculation of the Basket ETH Amount will be conclusively determined by the Sponsor and will be final and binding on all persons interested in the Trust. The Basket ETH Amount multiplied by the number of Baskets being created or redeemed is the “Total Basket ETH Amount.” The number of ETH represented by a Share will gradually decrease over time as the Trust’s ETH are used to pay the Trust’s expenses. Each Share represented approximately 0.0950 ETH and 0.0974 ETH as of December 31, 2019 and 2018, respectively.
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There are three mechanisms available for depositing euros to your Bittrex Global account:
If the name on your bank account is the same as the name in your Bittrex Global account, you can deposit euros by following the instructions on the SEPA deposit screen. You can get to this screen by going to your Holdings page, finding the EUR currency, clicking Deposit, and selecting SEPA.
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Make sure you accurately type the above text in SEPA transfer memo/notes to properly course the deposit for your account. If the name on your bank account differs from that in your Bittrex Global account, or if you wish to withdraw via SEPA without depositing, you will need to fill out the Euro Deposit and Withdrawal form https://bittrexglobal.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000640760 to have your bank account whitelisted for use with your Bittrex Global account.
Depositing USD on BittrexCrypto assets ensure that replenishment and all exchange transactions are kept through digital currency. Therefore, in case you need to withdraw cash, you must first convert it into Bitcoin (BTC).
At the same time, there may be some other ways to refill the balance with US dollars, which entails filling a particular form for depositing in dollars—Fiat USD trading Request.
To gain a digital currency on the exchange you need to visit your private account and find the Wallets section where all the wallets are shown.
The platform creates a crypto address to which we transfer funds. Money can be credited to the exchange within two days, with the time required depending on the currency and mode of payment (e.g. bank transfer, credit or debit card, and so on).
Therefore, after the transfer, the funds are credited to the exchange's internal wallet.
In order to include a user account for depositing and withdrawing funds in dollars, Bittrex must add the user’s bank account to the white list. Therefore, to replenish the balance with fiat money, you must fill a special form.
Keep in mind that wire transfers can only be received from bank accounts approved through the fiat trading application.
2) Make sure your bank account has been whitelisted.
Sign in to your Bittrex Global account. Go to the Holdings Tab. Type “US Dollar” in the search bar. Click the Withdraw button beneath Actions. All available whitelisted (approved) bank accounts will be shown.
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To get a USD deposit code, click the Holdings tab. Type “US dollar” in the search bar, click Deposit beneath Actions. Your USD deposit code will appear at the bottom of your Wire Transfer Instructions. Copy this code and input it in the memo/notes subject of the wire transfer form to your financial institution.
Use your USD deposit code every time making wire transfers. Wire transfers cannot be processed without a correct USD deposit code.
4) Best practice: Use the wire transfer information provided in your USD wallet when asking your bank for assistance.
Bittrex recommends that users resort to a local bank branch when sending wire transfers for the first time.
To show wire info, enter the "US dollar” in the search bar at the bottom of the Holdings page. Then click Deposit beneath Actions. You will see all the wire information. Use the deposit data to fill out a wire transfer form correctly. In case the info does not appear or if you have questions, please contact Bittrex Global support.
Make sure the wire transfer is not sent as an ACH transfer. ACH transfers aren't permitted so they will be banned.
Be aware: Wire deposits (wires sent to Bittrex Global) CANNOT be initiated on the Bittrex Global webpage. Only withdrawal wires can be initiated on the webpage. All wire transfers must be processed from the bank account number that was provided to Bittrex Global, in your fiat money transfer application.
5) Wait for the amount to be credited to your Bittrex Account.
All USD deposits are credited the same or next-business-day once settled in Bittrex's bank account.
Wires take 5-10 days to settle.
More delays will occur if the wire data does not fit the whitelist.
Wire transfer charges: Bittrex exchange does not take any wire transfer fee. Please ask your bank about the commission it charges for sending or getting a wire transfer. International banks usually involve mediators so check the commission the intermediary charges for their services.
Depositing Euros on BittrexThere are three ways available for depositing Euros into Bittrex Global account:
3) Go to the Holdings tab. Type “EUR” in the search bar. Click the Deposits button beneath Actions.
Deposit SEPA Transfer.
Make sure to include the text above in your SEPA switch memo/notes to perform a deposit to your account correctly.
No primary deposit is needed, but you need to provide details on the institution managing your account.
Attachment requirement: a bank-issued letter or account statement displaying containing the following data:
Debit and Credit Card Transactions on Bittrex GlobalTo use a debit or credit card in your Bittrex Global Account do the following:
As soon as the transaction is permitted, the funds may be credited to your wallet. You can track the transfer progress in the Deposits section of the Holdings page.
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Depositing Coins/Tokens on Bittrex Crypto ExchangeTo deposit crypto coins to your Bittrex exchange account, you will need to take a few important steps. It's critical to be especially careful to make your deposit as secure as possible.
To deposit coins to Bittrex Global, do the following:
2) Find for the wallet you want to deposit funds to and click Deposit beneath the Actions tab.
3) Please copy your Wallet Address to make a deposit. In case you don’t have any Wallet Address, click Generate new wallet address.
Below is the option of creating a deposit address for Bitcoin (BTC).
A few cash and tokens have a minimum deposit amount. For instance, your Ethereum deposit address must hold extra than 0.05 ETH before crediting to your account.
If you deposit less than 0.05 ETH, you may want to deposit some amount on the blockchain amounts to more than 0.05 ETH. In case you send a deposit smaller than the minimum, you will have to make another deposit to reach the minimum amount.
Please make sure that you transfer coins of the same type to the address. This means if you generated a BTC deal, you deposit BTC to it and no other coin. In case you deposit a different coin than that of the deal, you take a risk of losing all the concerned funds.
Depositing Tether (USDT) StablecoinBelow is the option of creating a deposit address for Tether (USDT).
2) Please copy the USDTT Wallet Address to make a deposit. In case you don’t have any USDTT Wallet Address, click Generate new wallet address.
3) Copy this crypto address and paste it to the Etherscan.io search bar.
You will see the contract info. Click to view a QR code.
A new window will appear, showing a QR code of your USDT wallet address. Be careful and check the correctness of your USDT transaction to your account on the Bittrex exchange.
You can check any Tether USDT ERC20 token transaction on the Ethereum blockchain. When a transaction happens, you will see the transaction hash and balance.
Once the transaction is confirmed on the blockchain, the Tether USDT will be credited to the balance sheet and you will find them in the Balances section.
Other USDT deposits can be found in the Deposit History section.
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